Good point
Hi eclipse,
Biochar, even if it's working, will take time to replenish the soils. So, if it works, of course it will possible to replenish the soils. What is unknown is how long it will take to replenish the soil. Will it be a decade or a century? I find the former quite unlikely in my opinion. It took centuries for the Earth to form the soil for us. How can we restore the soil a myriad times faster than nature? I believe that local food production may be possible but the food will be more expensive. Those that can afford it in the Worldwide Depression after peak oil will be able to eat. I also think that a large proportion of the population have forgotten how to farm. Plus, people do not learn how to farm in schools (I'm still in school so this is something that I have fully aware of). People cannot just grow their own food overnight if they don't know how to farm. And even if we let alone all those factors, there's still one more question. How are we going to power those farming machinery without oil unless a majority of people goes back to farming as their new part time occupation? Farming machinery has enabled more food to be cultivated. If we go back to using animals, farming will turn out to be a much slower and painful process to produce the same amount of food we have enjoyed with relative ease. Overshoot means that the world population has gone up more than the Earth's carrying capacity. Anything that is over the Earth's carrying capacity is not sustainable.
Same with electrifying the rails. One of the things you agreed that an economic depression will happen. When the Great Depression happened in the 30s, the US dollar went down and inflation went up. Based upon this, one can expect that the value of fiat-based US currency will go down even further if though it is going down as we speak. But it won't be just the US currency since it will be a Worldwide Depression. I believe that the value of any kind of fiat-based currency will do down. Thus, inflation goes up. I believe we will find industrialization quite expensive after peak oil. Since the electrification of rails requires more expensive labour (since the workforce will demand higher wages due to the lower purchasing power of their fiat-based currency), parts, minerals and raw materials dependent on international trade, and more expensive energy to produce and transport, we will find that we might not be able to ramp up so much electric rails during a worldwide economic depression. Finally, the government would be extremely busy after peak oil to take care of and spend on food supplies, health care, security, civil order, diplomacy, water supplies, paying off debt, heating oil (natural gas will peak too and it'll affect a lot of Canadians). If they need to spend so much on those areas, it will be hard to find the remaining money needed to spend on renewables.
These are all very well crafted points and they were all based on what happened during the Great Depression and what one should expect to happen in the imminent worldwide depression arising from peak oil. I look forward for you to counter my points with well-established facts. Thanks a lot.
Biochar, even if it's working, will take time to replenish the soils. So, if it works, of course it will possible to replenish the soils. What is unknown is how long it will take to replenish the soil. Will it be a decade or a century? I find the former quite unlikely in my opinion. It took centuries for the Earth to form the soil for us. How can we restore the soil a myriad times faster than nature? I believe that local food production may be possible but the food will be more expensive. Those that can afford it in the Worldwide Depression after peak oil will be able to eat. I also think that a large proportion of the population have forgotten how to farm. Plus, people do not learn how to farm in schools (I'm still in school so this is something that I have fully aware of). People cannot just grow their own food overnight if they don't know how to farm. And even if we let alone all those factors, there's still one more question. How are we going to power those farming machinery without oil unless a majority of people goes back to farming as their new part time occupation? Farming machinery has enabled more food to be cultivated. If we go back to using animals, farming will turn out to be a much slower and painful process to produce the same amount of food we have enjoyed with relative ease. Overshoot means that the world population has gone up more than the Earth's carrying capacity. Anything that is over the Earth's carrying capacity is not sustainable.
Same with electrifying the rails. One of the things you agreed that an economic depression will happen. When the Great Depression happened in the 30s, the US dollar went down and inflation went up. Based upon this, one can expect that the value of fiat-based US currency will go down even further if though it is going down as we speak. But it won't be just the US currency since it will be a Worldwide Depression. I believe that the value of any kind of fiat-based currency will do down. Thus, inflation goes up. I believe we will find industrialization quite expensive after peak oil. Since the electrification of rails requires more expensive labour (since the workforce will demand higher wages due to the lower purchasing power of their fiat-based currency), parts, minerals and raw materials dependent on international trade, and more expensive energy to produce and transport, we will find that we might not be able to ramp up so much electric rails during a worldwide economic depression. Finally, the government would be extremely busy after peak oil to take care of and spend on food supplies, health care, security, civil order, diplomacy, water supplies, paying off debt, heating oil (natural gas will peak too and it'll affect a lot of Canadians). If they need to spend so much on those areas, it will be hard to find the remaining money needed to spend on renewables.
These are all very well crafted points and they were all based on what happened during the Great Depression and what one should expect to happen in the imminent worldwide depression arising from peak oil. I look forward for you to counter my points with well-established facts. Thanks a lot.
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